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Hej och välkomna till Ultraaktuellt. Podden som handlar om allt om ultralöpning. Jag heter Daniel Westergren och med mig har jag ingen mindre än Johnny Hällneby. Tjena Johnny!

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Hallå hallå! Shit vad häftigt att göra en ljudpodd också om det här fantastiska Ultraaktuellt som du har skapat Daniel.

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Ja, det är normalt någonting som vi skriver på ultramarathon.se där vi sammanfattar vad som har hänt i ultra-Sverige den senaste veckan.

Men vad ska den här podden handla om egentligen?

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Det här blir en fantastisk möjlighet för oss att just ta upp det som är nytt och har hänt i ultravärlden. Visst, vi vill ju titta lite på tävlingar, vad hände i helgen? Vad gör våra stjärnultralöpare där ute just nu? Vad händer nästa helg?

Och får du möjlighet att få det i en ljudtappning också? Jag tycker det här ska bli ett jätteroligt projekt. Vad har vi på agendan den här veckan då?

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Ja, det är Transgrancanaria. Eller Transgrancanaria kanske man säger på svenska, som har gått i helgen, där vi hade stort svenskintresse på flera håll. Och Skövde 6-timmars tänkte vi också ta upp, Sveriges äldsta 6-timmars tävling.

Men vi kan väl börja med att bege oss till Gran Canaria, det är ju en ö som är känd för ganska många svenskar men få har väl sprungit över ön som Transgrancanaria handlar om. Vad är det för tävling det här gör nu?

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Det här är en fantastisk tävling på så många sätt. Jag har tyvärr inte sprungit där själv, men bara det att vara i den miljön och vara i den miljön vid den här årstiden på vinterhalvor fortfarande här i Sverige. Det är ganska tacksamt att åka ner till Kanarieöarna från Sverige också. Det är ju ganska lämpligt resmässigt. Och att få springa en trailtävling över ön.

De har ju också i De har jättemånga olika distanser. Allt från någon kort, 17-kilometersvariant, till en ännu kortare, men de har... Det är väl tre stycken olika ultradistanser. En 360 som är helt absurd, som är en självförsörjande sak, där man springer 262 kilometer.

Det stora loppet heter Transgrancanaria och är 128 kilometer och ungefär 7,5 tusen höjdmeter. Det är väl det huvudloppet som vi gillar allra mest kanske. Sen i år så gillar vi allra mest Advanced-distansen som är på 65 kilometer och 2500 höjdmeter.

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Precis, den sista halvan av ett Transgrancanarialoppet. Men om vi börjar med huvudtävlingen där så hade vi två stycken svenskar som vi hade ganska stora förhoppningar på innan. Carl-Johan Sörman som är en sån här late bloomer vid 43 års ålder har letat sig upp till världstoppen. Och Mimmi Kotka som ju har varit verkligen högst upp i världstoppen som skulle återvända till de här längre distanserna men det gick inte riktigt som vi hade hoppats för någon av

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Nej, tyvärr, och Carl-Johan var vi lite osäkra på innan också, för han hade ju problem. Vad var den tävlingen?

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Jag Hongkong 100 som var den första deltävlingen i det här Ultra Trail World Tour där han drabbades av rhabdomyolys och ändå joggade ner på en niondeplats, vilket var imponerande nog.

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Sen ställer han upp här igen och försöker ge sig själv en ny chans. Han radade upp imponerande resultat på de här trailultratävlingarna förra året, så det är klart att vi hoppades där.

Mimmi, det var jätteroligt att se henne i comebacken. Men det slutade med DNF på båda, tyvärr. Det var tråkigt. Jag har inte riktigt koll på vad som hände där, men det vet jag att du har.

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Ja, Karl-Johan, det var väl höftböjaren och sätesmuskeln som han kände av ganska tidigt i tävlingen. Smärtan gjorde att han till slut var tvungen att avbryta. Själv tror han att det har lite med dålig prehab att göra. Att han har haft det lite för stressigt för att hinna med den där prehaben han faktiskt behöver göra.

Så han har väl förhoppningen att vara tillbaka i gott skick snart. Det var tur att han inte gjorde som Johan Lantz gjorde 2015 när han sprang tills till och med lårbenshalsen gick av. Så det är väl nånting med Transgrancanaria och svenskarna?

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Ja, usch. Det var illa men det var bra att Carl-Johan bröt i förtid i alla fall. Men Mimmi fick också seriösa problem.

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Ja, hon ramlade ordentligt och slog i knät riktigt rejält. Nu skulle hon röntgas igår så vi har väl inte riktigt koll på hur det har gått men vi hoppas att det inte ska vara någonting allvarligt.

Men det gjorde i alla fall att hon tvingades stiga av trots att hon fram till dess kände sig ganska bra faktiskt. Så det är kul om hon kan vara på gång igen ordentligt.

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Vi kan väl dra resultatet från huvudtävlingen också, - när jag ändå sitter med det framför mig, - för att när jag följde tävlingen lite i början i alla fall, - så såg jag att den här killen Pau Capell ledde ju väldigt länge. Han vann ju UTMB förra året, så jag tänkte att det där är klart, - men sen så kom Pablo Villa och tog hem hela spektaklet till slut, - så Pau Capell slutade tvåa och Dylan Bowman från USA slutade trea.

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Nu får jag faktiskt korrigera dig lite, Johnny. Det var så att Pau Capell och Pablo Villa gick i mål tillsammans hand i hand.

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Vilket var ganska häftigt. Om man läser resultatlistan så står det ju 1-1 på båda drömmarna. Det är Johnny som inte kan läsa och inte följde tävlingen ordentligt.

Ja, det där med att gå hand i hand kan vi göra ett eget avsnitt om någon gång, men det är ju ganska mäktigt i alla fall. Det säger vi.

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Pau hade ju vunnit de tre senaste åren så han tyckte väl att det var kul att få dela glädjen det här året.

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Då var det fint. Ska vi se om jag kan läsa damernas rättstavslista bättre?

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Ja, gör ett försök där. Framförallt ser jag fram emot uttalet av hon som blev trea.

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Inga bekymmer. Men jag börjar med ettan. Kaitlin Gerbin. Det var redan där som vi stakade oss.

Tvåa, Fu-Zhao Xiang. Och trea då, Daniel. Azara García de los Salmones Marcano.

Din spanska är imponerande Johnny. Ja, det var jag nöjd med. Daniel, visst hade vi några ord med en fin svensk insats här i huvudtävlingen

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Ja, när Karl-Johan inte riktigt kunde göra sig själv rättvisa så gjorde istället Stefan Ehrin sitt livs lopp. Han har ju vunnit ett antal tävlingar på hemmaplan, Gotlands Ultramaraton och Björnfrossa Ultramaraton bland annat.

Men han gjorde sitt livs lopp, förbättrade sig med över fyra timmar och kom i mål på total tjugonde plats, sjuttonde bland herrarna. Jennifer Asp som själv inte kunde springa som hon hade tänkt tog sig ett snack med Stefan här och vi får höra vad de

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Okej, Stefan. Hur mår du efter racet? Ja, bra. Bara helt vanligt bra?

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Nej, jag känner mig lite urlakad och tömd men annars så mår kroppen bra.

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Gött. Ja, du persade ju faktiskt med fyra timmar. Det händer inte jätteofta. Hade du förväntat dig det här? Hade du liksom en plan för det här?

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Ja, jag gjorde det förra året och det var första riktiga långa bergsultran. Då var jag väldigt defensiv.

I år vill jag ligga på och se hur mycket jag kunde pusha mig själv. Jag trodde väl att 16 timmar var görbart, men svårt.

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Och så klarar du den limiten med sex minuter ju. Så det vart sex minuter bonus faktiskt.

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Flera minuter tillgodo.

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Vad har den här prestationen för betydelse för din framtida satsning och löparkarriär?

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Ja, jag vet inte. Det är väl skönt att få ett kvitto på att kontinuitet och träningen ger resultat. Men jag kommer väl bara fortsätta nöta på i vanlig ordning.

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Och vinna nästa år tänker jag.

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Vinnaren nästa år. Ja, tjena. Topp 10 kanske?

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Ja, topp 10 tror jag verkligen.

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Jajemen, det var Stefan Ehrin som faktiskt kommer från Ockelbo, om vi förstår Johnny. Tillsammans med ytterligare ett gäng duktiga löpare i Ockelbomaffian.

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Ja, precis. Där har vi bröderna Lantz med Johan Lantz och Joakim Lantz och Elov Olsson. Den maffian är inte helt lätt att slå sig in i och Stefan Ehrin är väl precis snäppet under där.

Men det är jättespännande att han siktar ännu högre. Han gillar ju sin utveckling just nu. Mycket bra.

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Ja, han verkar vara väldigt klok i sitt sätt att se på hur han ska utvecklas som ultralöpare. Så det blir spännande att följa.

Men vi tar väl snäppet neråt i distans till den distans som kallas för Advanced där vi hade två stycken svenska tjejer som vi hade höga förhoppningar på. Både Jennifer Asp och Petra Kindlund. Jennifer kom tyvärr inte till start. Har haft problem med en häl som inte blev tillräckligt bra i tid så hon fick vara vid sidan och heja på de andra istället.

Men Petra Kindlund gick det riktigt bra för. Vem är den här Petra Kindlund?

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Ja, Petra är ju... Hon är ju en meriterad elitlöpare i Sverige och har sprungit allt från 400 meter upp till de här ultratrail-loppen. Jätteintressant. Grundare av Runacademy också.

Som en händelse så har vi ett gammalt Pace on Earth-podcastavsnitt med Petra där vi pratar mycket om... Ja, hur man blir en bättre löpare ska man säga. Jag tror det var tillbaka till avsnitt 57 på Pace on Earth Podcast. Man får scrolla lite tillbaka om man ska hitta det.

Det var jättejättehäftigt att se att hon kunde prestera så bra på den här typen av tävling. För det är ju inte där hon har sin grund.

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Det är kortare distanser där hon har gjort bäst även om hon har sprungit riktigt bra på Ultravasan 90. Men det var ett antal år sen nu och efter att hon fick barn så blev hon tvåa på Ultravasan 45 i somras i alla fall.

Det var ju också den placeringen hon fick i den här tävlingen och var till och med ett tag uppe i ledningen. Vi kanske ska höra själv med Petra vad hon säger om loppet.

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Det var riktigt tufft. Mycket tuffare än vad jag trodde från början. Min utmaning var framförallt alla utförslöpningar. Det var en mycket tuffare utförslöpning än vad jag trodde från början. Det var väldigt stenigt, väldigt brant och rullstenigt så det var lätt att halka. Så det gjorde att det var extra krävande. Utförslöpning har väl aldrig varit min styrka egentligen. Så att hon som vann så hade jag inte en chans i utförslöpningarna. Däremot så plockade jag på henne i uppförsbackar. Men så fort det blev utför så dansade hon utför.

Försökte ta mig ner på bästa sätt. Värmen gjorde också loppet extra utmanande. Det var tufft när det var gassande sol. Och det gick åt väldigt mycket mer vätska än vad jag trodde att det skulle göra. Inför några vätskestationer där det druckit upp allting och nästan var torr. Det var utmanande på flera sätt.

Jag känner mig också extra fascinerad över att det gick att springa så pass bra på slutet, att benen inte tog helt slut trots all utförslöpning. Och jag tror att det har gett lite effekt ändå att kunna ha sprungit i Hammarbybacken upp och ner. Att man ändå kan vänja sig på den typ av löpning, att faktiskt öva på utförslöpningen och stärka benen kring det. Så det tar jag med mig till framöver, att man kan komma ganska långt ändå med Hammarbybacken.

I stora hela var jag väldigt nöjd med den här prestationen. Jag var supernöjd och bara för att ta mig i mål. Sen att det blev en silverplats, det trodde jag inte. Det ser jag som en stor bonus bara.

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Ja, det var Petra Kindlund som gjorde en oerhört imponerande insats genom att bli tvåa i den här högkvalitativa tävlingen på Transgrancanaria i klassen Advanced.

Men vi tar och beger oss hemåt till Skövde och Skövde 6-timmars och den tävlingen har du ganska bra koll på Johnny. Kan du berätta lite mer om vad det är för någon tävling?

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Ja, men det här är ju också en tävling med mycket tradition. En av de tävlingar som Rei Martikainen som är en eldsjäl när det gäller att arrangera ultratävlingar i Sverige. Den startade någonstans kring 2005, eller dylikt. Jag tror att Transgrancanaria och Skövde 6-timmars är ungefär jämngamla.

Då kan man välja om man vill åka till Skövde och springa 6 timmar i en park där, eller om man vill åka till Kanarieöarna. Det är verkligen två motpoler här på något sätt i tävlingssammanhang.

Jag har varit nere i Skövde själv två gånger och det är ju väderutsatt så här års. Dessutom är den där parken lite upp och ner, så det är inte en helt lätt sextimmarstävling. Men det är ändå kul att ha möjlighet att testa sig själv så här i tävlingsinledningen på något sätt på året.

Det är alltid kul att se vilka som är där och vilka som presterar. Det var ganska många till start, tyckte jag, som jag var intresserad av. Det var intressant att följa tävlingen.

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Ja, och det var ändå där som Sofia Sundberg satte svenskt rekord 2017. Så det går att springa snabbt, även om det är lite knixigt.

Men i år så blev det norskt på damsidan istället. Om vi börjar där.

Vi har ju en oerhört intressant story på herrsidan också. Men kan du berätta lite grann om hur damklassen utkristalliserade sig?

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Ja, damklassen var ju då... Det var ju ett sololopp nästan för Therese Falk rent tävlingsmässigt. Therese Falk är från Norge och är med i landslaget på 24-timmars. Hon är jättebra helt enkelt. Nu har jag inte siffran uppe. Vad fick hon 74?

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Ja, 4 km, lite drygt. Det var personligt rekord med någon kilometer dessutom. Hon verkar ha gjort ett väldigt bra lopp även om det är på 24-timmars som hennes riktiga kvalitet visar sig.

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Det visade sig också i den här tävlingen att det var Therese och ett gäng herrar som i princip låg på samma varv väldigt, väldigt långt in i tävlingen. Det var väldigt kul att följa på det sättet också.

På andra plats har vi Elin Hartelius, som inte är så meriterad i dessa sammanhang, men gör över 70 kilometer. På trean har vi Anna Alwin. Även där ett prydligt personligt rekord. Hon slår meriterade löpare som Helle Mannvik och Sandra Lundqvist. Det var en trevlig dampall där måste jag säga.

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Ja och det är lite spännande. Therese Fredriksson som har sprungit massa 6-timmarstävlingar. Det var ju hennes tolfte försök som hon kom över 70 kilometer i november i Borås och bara några månader senare så kvalificerade hon sig antagligen, det är inte uttagningarna är inte gjorda ännu, men till landslaget i 24-timmars.

Så att Elin Hartelius debut på tidslopp kan man ju sätta i perspektiv lite grann på det sättet.

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Ja, verkligen. Vi mötte ju också Elin faktiskt nere på Kullamannen och det var ju också en utmaning som hon klarade av med bravur och med den inställning som hon visade upp där och med den fart hon visade upp här.

Det var vete tusan! Det är spännande att följa! Helt klart!

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Men herrsidan, där var ju kanske kvaliteten på resultaten inte lika imponerande, men det var ju väldigt mycket dramatik. Vi nämnde ju att det var flera löpare tillsammans. Någon nöjde sig med en stark mara, en bröt elening efter tre timmar och så vidare.

Sen var det storfavoriterna Henrik Roos, Anton Wilson tillsammans med Simon Axelsson som då ledde ganska länge. Men sen hände någonting. Vad händer egentligen i herrklassen?

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Ja, det här var ju en... tränare och coach våta dröm då, förutom att jag inte coachar Simon Gustavsson från Umara och podden Presterar Mera. Men attans vilket lopp han gör! Det är banne mig helt unikt. Jag har inte sett något liknande.

Jag sitter ju här och tittar på hans varvtider så här i efterhand och får ståpäls liksom. Killen gör ett helt och hållet progressivt lopp och börjar med varvtider kring fem och tio och sen springer han fortare och fortare, i princip varje varv hela loppet. Jag är så imponerad Daniel. Jag har inte riktigt ord för detta.

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Nej, det tillhör inte vanligheten att man ser ett sådant lopp och att man dessutom går och vinner det. Det är oerhört imponerande. Det var faktiskt inte ens tänkt att Simon skulle springa den här tävlingen.

Han bestämde sig bara någon vecka innan tävlingen och dessutom råkade han ut för ytterligare någon incident inför tävlingen som sänkte hans ambitioner. Men vi kan väl höra lite grann vad Simon själv berättar om det här udda upplägget.

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Onsdagen, dagarna innan, så gjorde jag en praktvurpa med cykeln och slog i revbenen riktigt ordentligt, den höften. Vilket gjorde att jag var lite osäker på min start, men så sprang jag en liten sväng där på torsdagen och tyckte att... Men det känns ändå bra. Det gör inte ont att springa. Då beslutade jag mig ändå för att ställa mig på startlinjen.

Men det gjorde också att jag gjorde ett litet intervallpass på fredagen. För nu tänkte jag att då drog jag ner mina förväntningar ännu mer att, nej... Jag ska ha ett trevligt träningspass och då kör jag ett intervallpass på fredagen och så får jag ett långt löppass på lördag och så blir det bra i träningsplaneringen...

Så planen gick alldeles utmärkt. Jag tog det lugnt. De första milen låg ungefär i 5:20 men så märkte jag ganska så tidigt att jag hade lite svårt att hålla mig tygladd. Jag låg ganska ofta ner mot 5:05-5:10 och redan vid 2 mil så tog jag beslutet att göra min lilla farthöjning lite tidigare än planerat. 67 vill jag lösa, jag har gjort 65 innan så 67 vill jag lösa. 70% vågar jag inte riktigt drömma om. Jag tänkte att 5-fart i 6 timmar är rätt tufft och den här banan är ändå lite knixig.

Löpare runt om mig började bli lite slitna och jag fick upp farten lite extra. Det gav ju en hel del motivation. Folk började heja väldigt mycket. Den fantastiska langningspersonalen vid varvning var ju väldigt inspirerande för de sa oj vad det går fort nu. Och så skalade jag av mina snitt-tider nästan varje varv. Eller framförallt varje fem kilometer, eller varje tio kilometer, så skalades de ner.

Och då blev jag inspirerad och tänkte... Undrar om inte jag kan öka till 4:40-4:45. För det vet jag, jag kan göra en mara när jag är ganska sliten. Det gjorde jag i Kalmar. Då låg jag 4:30 på sista maran. Det kändes hur bra som helst. Det var jätteroligt att göra den farthöjningen. Jag kände att jag sprang om många av dem som sprang om mig i början och ännu... Folk började heja ännu mer och undrade om jag... Det var så otroligt inspirerande för mig att springa loppet på det sättet.

Att nästan kapa av 50 sekunder per kilometer mot starttiden. Det gjorde att man kände att man nästan flög fram när man fick släppa lös benen ordentligt. Och sen när jag kommit 65 och så kollade jag på klockan och så... Va? Nu är det... Nu har jag kommit. Nu är det ungefär 45 minuter kvar. Vem det var? Nja, det kan ha varit 50 minuter kvar ungefär. Då tänkte jag så här. Om jag gör det en snabb mil nu så kan jag komma nästan över 75 kilometer. Det hade varit häftigt.

Jag hade ingen aning hur jag var till placeringsmässigt, men jag såg det här på mitt sista varv. Så såg jag 150 meter bort Henrik Roos som jag tänkte eller som jag visste är en väldigt, väldigt duktig löpare. såg jag honom, så jag började närma mig honom och precis när jag kom till mina grejor så hämtade jag överdragsjackan, tog den i famnen, sprang upp jämsides eller precis bakom honom och slog på GoPro'n bara för att kunna filma själva slutskottet om man säger så.

Det var inte förrän jag träffade barnmätaren som han sa liksom att - Du vann mig ungefär ett varv. Som gick upp för mig att - Det gick något så fruktansvärt bra. Det gick verkligen så mycket bättre än förväntat än vad jag någonsin hade kunnat tro. Jag hade inga svackor någon gång. Men det här ska jag suga litegrann på. Jag såg det som ett helt vanligt träningspass som växte till sig och blev något helt annat.

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Ja, Simon Gustavsson alltså över 75 kilometer och han visste inte ens om att han hade vunnit när han spurtade mot Henrik Roos och som han trodde var ett varv före men som faktiskt visade sig vara exakt ett varv efter. Dessutom så var det så att Henrik spurtade mot Simon Axelsson. Simon Axelsson slog Henrik med hela fem meter på slutet. Det var en oerhörd dramatik på slutet. Det var alla de tre topplöparna som spurtade tillsammans.

Men Simon Gustavsson var alltså ett varv före de övriga båda. Så det skulle säkert vara en häftig avslutning att vara med på om man var på plats i Skövde. Men vi hade ju faktiskt...

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Det blir ofta så grymt kul i de här tidsloppen. Man vet väl lite vad man har krafter kvar. Man kanske har en halvtimme kvar av tävlingen och vet att man kan öka. Man kanske ser att man är ett halvt varv efteråt.

Så att det kan bli sån här väldigt häftig dramatik på lopp som kanske inte alltid annars uppfattas som publikförflyttande. Men sista varven är otroligt spännande att följa. Alla springer för varje meter, varje steg räknas.

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Visst är det så. Det är inte slut förrän målskottet i det här fallet lyder.

Men vi hade också kanske en av svensk ultralöpnings allra största stjärnor på plats, Maria Jansson. Johnny, har det varit födelsedagspresent åt någon någon gång?

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Om jag har varit födelsedagspresent? Nej, men jag har varit svensexapresent, kan man vara det?

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Ja, det kan man säkert vara. Tomt, det kanske det har varit också med tanke på skägget. Nej, i det här fallet så var Maria Jansson faktiskt, hon är ju ganska van att vara utslagen efter sina imponerande 24-timmarstävlingar. Den här gången så kanske hon inte bokstavligen var inslagen, men åtminstone en present åt Annika Jonsson som fyllde 50. Som alltså fick Maria som present och sprang tillsammans och trots att hon inte riktigt var idealiskt tränad så här tidigt på säsongen så pressade hon sig över 60 kilometer tack vare de där sista minuterna också.

Så det var ju säkert också spännande och en upplevelse för många att få ta ett snack med Maria Jansson som vi hoppas är på väg tillbaka till toppen efter ett par skadefyllda år. Jag vill också vara födelsedagspresent. Då har vi ett tips till alla lyssnare. Boka Johnny som födelsedagspresent.

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Det är så vi kommer få ekonomi i den här podden så småningom, Daniel.

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Ja, men det låter underbart. Men vi kanske inte ska snacka alltför mycket utan nöja oss med det här. Det var de här två tävlingarna den här helgen.

Nästa vecka väntar Edsvidsleden Trailrun i Trollhättan, som för första gången har en ultradistans där bland annat Kullamannen-vinnaren Magnus Rabe kommer att springa. Det är lite häftigt. Det är rätt många trail-tävlingar som går upp och skapar en ultradistans just för att intresset för ultra är så oerhört stort?

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Ja, visst är det så. Det är inte jättemånga tävlingar och alltså nästa helg, men sen så måste vi lägga en liten blänkare för att vi arrangerar ultraintervaller helgen efter. Det är alltså 21 mars. Det kan man också skriva upp i sin kalender om man vill göra en liten socialöppning där man befinner sig. Så finns det alltid ultraintervallmöjligheter. Ultraintervall är den 21 mars, men tävlingsmässigt så har vi den här.

Men det var ju en lite bra start... Du hade ju nåt bra startnamn här också till Edsviksveden. Vad säger ni? Edsvilds...

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Edsvidsleden Trail Run. Det är ju en vandringsled där utanför Trollhättan, så man springer... På ultradistansen som är 56 kilometer springer man fyra varv på en 14-kilometersbana. Så det kan säkert vara spännande. Det har också nått maxtaket av 60 löpare på ultradistansen, så det verkar vara stort intresse för den tävlingen där.

Men sen kan vi nämna också, vi nämnde Ockelbomaffian tidigare. Två av dem är över i USA och tränar med självaste Jim Walmsley för närvarande så det kan ju också bli spännande vad det kan leda till om de kan höja sig ytterligare ett snäpp den här säsongen i Ockelbomaffian.

Men ja Johnny, ska vi nöja oss med det för den här gången och be lyssnarna återkomma nästa vecka för senaste nytt inom svensk ultralöpning helt

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Så gör vi. Vi checkar ut och tackar för oss.

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Tack ska ni vara. Välkomna åter. Hejdå. Hejdå.

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